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Hi David,
I have been researching my mothers side of the family for quite some time now. It is amazing how many snippets I found on the web. Many of these snippets have come from your site. The only problem is they are just that, snippets. Having said that I am most grateful for any thing I can find because I started from practically zero. I have discovered though that my ancestors were quite interesting and am particularly interested in finding out more about my Great Grandfather Mahomed Sewjee Alarakia. I know he was born in India and came to live in HK in the early 1880s. He worked at the HK Observatory from 1884 to 1889 before moving on to the Army Service Corps as a clerk. He was also The Hon Secretary and Treasurer for the HK Islam Club in 1912. He had a very large family of about fifteen or sixteen children but I cannot find any reference about his wife other than the possibility that he married a daughter (no name)of Mahomed Arab who has been mentioned in one of your articles. If this is true then I would love it if any of your contributors could point me in the right direction to find out more. It seems I need to know more about Mahomed Arab who will have been a contemporay of my Great great Grandfather Sewjee Alarakia.
I know this looks like a ramble but i can't help myself. By the way if anyone is interested i have started a blog at myalarakiafamily.blogspot.com where I hope to finally nail my heritage.
Thankyou all for taking the time to read this
Regards
Ken Alarakia-Charles
I have reinstated my blog, so if any of you wish to see what I have discovered or think I have discovered feel free to have a look and don't forget to comment or offer assistance.
https://alarakiafamilyofhongkong.blogspot.com/
Regards and Best Wishes
Ken
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Have you tried searching for Mahomed Arab in the Carl Smith Collection? Instructions at https://gwulo.com/carl-smith-collection
Mahomed Arab
Thanks for this Jill. It produced quite a lot of info but sadly not what I was looking for. I will however continue searching the site for info on other family characters.
Further digging through this site showed that Mahomed Arab is in fact my Great Great Garandfather. His daughter having married my Great Grandfather Mahomed S Alarakia.
Thanks again
Take care
Ken
Hi Ken,
Hi Ken,
This is right up my alley.
You sound exactly like me. My father's English ancestors are easy to trace (relatively speaking). My mother's side is somewhat difficult. My story is just like yours, suffice to say. I started with very little knowledge of my mother's side of the family but have built up my understanding slowly over the years. In a nutshell the Alarakias are not my blood relations but I have come across their names many times (they have socialised with my wider family in HK in the past) and it's been on my 'to do list' to make a study of them. The 'Arab', 'Markar', 'Wahab'', 'Minu' and 'Kitchell' are other names on my to do list. I am also looking into 'Moosdeen' as well.
You are light years ahead of me as this is your family and have had years to compile your information. The work below is just 48hrs of internet searching but I hope there may be something new for you.
The Alarakia name is a great one to study as it is unusual and small in number. Looking at British newspapers focusing on news on the East, the name 'Alarakia' seemed to be used as a first name or part of a name eg. in 1881 on a report of a defamation case of a certain 'Alarakia Ebramani' in India he was mentioned as a Memon (as opposed to other 'Mahomedans'), the mercantile Muslim caste in NW India, centered where Kutch was. Their mercantile nature caused them to spread out from India throughout the 18th and 19th century settling in various places including East Asia. So you might have a point on the general geographic origin of the HK branch of the 'Alarakia' line. And once they collided with the bureaucracy of the British Empire the need for documentation may have caused the HK branch or proto-branch before arriving in HK to have used 'Alarakia' as a surname. If you really want this question answered it can be done through a 'Y' chromosome haplogroup mapping (a simple swab test of DNA from the cheek) of the male surnamed Alarakias from around the world to see if there is any common male ancestor relation. But looking at the tree I am not sure if there are any living male Alarakias from HK?
Below is a sketch of the tree. I have omitted everyone from generation 5 and later in case there are living individuals who value their privacy.
1. Sewjee Alarakia (1843-21st Jun 1890) b. India d. Hong Kong
…+ (?) (18??-?)
…2. Mahomed Sewjee Alarakia (1866-22nd Oct 1920) b. India d. Hong Kong
……+ (?) Arab (18??-19??) (married Hong Kong 1884)
……3. Fatima Mohamed (Mahomed) Alarakia (1886-11th Jan 1965) b. Hong Kong d. Hong Kong dsp
……3. (?) (‘Cherry’) Alarakia (188?-19??)
………+ (?) Moosdeen (18??-19??) b. Hong Kong
……3. Zanab Alarakia (14th Feb 1889-20th Feb 1889) b. Hong Kong d. Hong Kong
……3. Cassim Mahomed Alarakia (3rd Apr 1890-13th Nov 1946) b. Hong Kong d. Hong Kong
………+ Rubiya (?) (6th Jun 1896-24th Mar 1947) d. Hong Kong
………4. Mahomed C. Alarakia (6th Jul 1931-8th Jul 1931) b. Hong Kong d. Hong Kong
………4. Salamar C. Alarakia (27th Mar 1933-31st Aug 1933) b. Hong Kong d. Hong Kong
………4. Female Alarakia (19??->1947) b. Hong Kong
………4. Female Alarakia (19??->1947) b. Hong Kong
………4. Female Alarakia (19??->1947) b. Hong Kong
………4. Female Alarakia (19??->1947) b. Hong Kong
……3. Hanifa Alarakia (14th Oct 1891-20th Oct 1891) b. Hong Kong d. Hong Kong
……3. Mariam (‘Mary’) Alarakia (3rd Sep 1892-14th Nov 1969) b. Hong Kong d. Hong Kong dsp
……3. Jaf (‘Jack’) Mohamed Alarakia (18??->1965) b. Hong Kong
………+ (?) (19??->1939)
……3. Ebrahim Mahomed Alarakia (1895-11th Jun 1939) b. Hong Kong d. Hong Kong
………+(1) (?) Yeung (Mahomed) (18??-19??) b. Canton, China
………4. Abdoola (Abdool) Ebrahim Mohamed Alarakia (1922-9th May 1925) b. Hong Kong d. Hong Kong
………4. Hanifa Alarakia (192?-?) b. Hong Kong
…………+ Omar B. Wahab (19??-?)
………4. Abbas Mohamed Alaraka (1925-18th Aug 1945) b. Hong Kong d. Hong Kong dsp
………4. Rubia Alarakia (20th Aug 1927-22nd Feb 1955) b. Hong Kong d. Barrow in Furness, Lancashire
…………+ Edwin (‘Eddie’) Joseph Charles (23rd Apr 1926-19th Apr 1985) b. Barrow in Furness d. Barrow in Furness (m. 15th Jun 1949 HK)
………+(2) Sharifa Mahomed (1904-22nd Nov 1943) d. Hong Kong
………4. Fatima Alarakia (1929-2005) b. Hong Kong d. Hong Kong
………4. Zahara (Zaharia) Alarakia (1931-) b. Hong Kong
………4. Hayim Alarakia (3rd Jul 1930-26th Dec 1976) b. Hong Kong d. Hong Kong
…………+ Hafisha Law (19??-?)
………4. Fazul Ebrahim Mohamed Alarakia (Apr 1933-24th May 1933) b. Hong Kong d. Hong Kong
………4. Kayum Mohamed Alarakia (1934-30th Dec 1938) b. Hong Kong d. Hong Kong
……3. Ismail (‘Iki’) Mohamed Alarakia (1897-28th Sep 1974) b. Hong Kong d. Hong Kong dsp
…....3. Sophia (‘Sophie’) Mohamed Alarakia (18??->1935) b. Hong Kong
………+ Antonio.(‘Tony’) Carlos Neves (1904->1947) (married Hong Kong c.1932)
………4. Rookiyah Gertrude Neves (Jul 1934-26th Nov 1934) b. Hong Kong d. Hong Kong
………4. (?) Neves (19??->1946)
………4. (?) Neves (19??->1946)
……3. Rhamatulla (‘Ray’) Mohamed Alarakia (1900-30th May 1974) b. Hong Kong d. Hong Kong
……3. Sakina Mohamed Alarakia (1901-19th Feb 1935) b. Hong Kong d. Hong Kong dsp
……3. Suleiman (Sulieman) (‘Sonny’) Mohamed (Mahomed) Alarakia (1908-16th Jul 1936) b. Hong Kong d. Hong Kong
……3. Halima (‘Helen’) Alarakia (22nd Feb 1912->1965) b. Hong Kong
…2. Abdulla Sewjee Alarakia (1872-26th May 1898) d. Hong Kong
……+ (?) (18??-1905) d. Hong Kong
……2. Saliman Alarakia (1898-19??) b. Hong Kong
……2. Sulieman Alarakia (Sep 1898-6th May 1899) b. Hong Kong d. Hong Kong
I have a number of names I'm not sure where they fit eg.
1) Alfred A. Alarakia, who went to school (DBS) in HK at the turn of the century and later married a Japanese in Shanghai in the 1920s (Masako Gotoda 1898-1973 Osaka, Japan)
2) U. Alarakia who worked as a stenographer for Thomas Cook and Sons at the Grand Hotel in Peking in 1922. Not sure if this was the same Usuff Alarakia who was a focus of a medical study as a lunatic in Canton in 1938.
3) I think Bibi Alarakia (1871-24th August 1952 Hong Kong) was most likely the wife of Mahomed Sewjee Alarakia (yet to find corroborative evidence). I have gone through the Muslim Cemetery records in Happy Valley, HK and she is the only person whose name and age fits ie her maiden name was therefore 'Bibi Arab' based on your 1884 marriage newspaper notice. Of course that makes her a child when she gave birth to her first child. But 1) Age reported at death have been known to be inaccurate esp for the real elderly (she was documented as 81 years old at time of burial hence born c.1871) 2) Some girls were really married young in the nascent Muslim community in HK. I know she was styled as 'Mr and Mrs S Alarakia' in the papers and the assumption her first name began with 'S' but I wonder if she was styled as 'Mr and Mrs Sewjee Alarakia' so 'S' was not necessarily her first name.
Anyway much food for thought. Keep plugging at the blog and good luck. You never know - someone, somewhere may be able to help unravel some of the questions you want answered.
best wishes
David
Oh yes, Anita M. Weiss's study "South Asian Muslims in Hong Kong: Creation of a 'Local Boy' Identitty" from Modern Asian Studies, Vol 25, No. 3 (July 1991) on pages 424-425 the Alarakia family tree are mentioned but its information you already largely know. though the paper may be of interest to you. A.C. Neves was a Portuguese who embraced Islam when he married Sophie.
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David
Thank you very very much for this info. You have confirmed many of my suspicions and given me some more leads to work on.My Grandfather was Ebrahim Mahomed Alarakia. There are still Alarakia's by blood if not by name living in Hong Kong. Some married into families named Ng while my Aunt the only living sibling of my mother married into the Wahab family. There are still single Alarakia women living but now moved to Canada. I must check out Bibi as my great great grandmother is a mystery still. However i notice the tree shows my mother Rubia and father Eddie. Can you advise where I can view the tree in its entirety.
Again Many thanks
Onwards I plod
Ken
Hi Ken,
Hi Ken,
Professor Anita Weiss mentioned in her study that your greatgrandfather Mohamed Allarakia (sic) was a merchant of cloth. I don't know if she meant your great great grandfather as she did oral interviews with living descendants in HK back in the 1980s. Maybe its worth contacting her - she might still have some notes that may prove valuable to you?
https://pages.uoregon.edu/aweiss/
I found a few things that give supporting evidence that the Alarakias may have come from NW India near Kutch as you suggested:
1) This webmaster below seemed to have built up a database of the Memons who migrated from Kutch, India to Zanzibar and Tanzania. He has a long list of surnames of which I note 'Alarakhia'. Maybe worth contacting him for your studies.
https://taheerkassam.tribalpages.com/
2) This one has 'Alarakhia' in the middle part of his name and came from the Sind Province originally (right next to/part of what was Kutch) and was described as a cloth merchant!
http://ismaili.net/heritage/node/20671
I note you have an account on ancestry. The tree I drew up was a quick ad-hoc one to help me understand the individuals so its not published anywhere.I can contact you on ancestry and make further conact that way if you'd like.
Thanks for this David, You
Thanks for this David, You have been most helpful. I am not sure about the cloth merchant, there was never any mention in the wider family about that. I will check further. I must mention however that my immediate family ancestors spelled our surname with a single L. I won't know until I drill down the 'India' side if any variations in spelling are used. As for 'Ancestry.com' I have lost all patience with it. It is fine for my fathers side of the family, but as far as the Alarakia's go it is not much use. I have found loads of info since contactiing gwulo and thank you for your interest and assistance. If you look at 'myalarakiafamily.blogspot.com' you will see what I have found to-date.
Regards
Ken
Since writing this I have sadly removed my blog. Unfortunateley a younger member of the wider family htought it appropriate to broadcast sections of the blog on social media without consultation and made inaccurate observations, so I reluctantly took away his access by the only means possible which was deletion.
Hi Ken,
Hi Ken,
I'm sad to see you've taken down the blog as I was looking forward to reading your insights and findings due to my interest in researching the South Asian Muslim community in HK. Hopefully you will re-consider or use this thread to pursue your research.
A few updates for your research into your family:
1) On my simplified tree, I use the notation '>' (greater than) on a date eg. '>1947' to indicate to myself that this person was still alive at that date to help me narrow or locate the death date in the future. So it does not mean the person died in that year.
2) Alfred Arthur Alarakia's father was Abdoola Alarakia (ie. I assume it's Adbulla Sewjee Alarakia 1872-26th May 1898). This information was on his marraige certificate of 17th October 1921 at the British Consulate General in Shanghai. Alfred Alarakia's occupation was a Stenographer and Clerical Assistant, he was a Bachelor and he lived at 775 East Yalu Road, Shanghai. His father was deceased by that date and his occupation was listed as Clerical Assistant. His wife was Gotoda Masano (sic), she was a spinster, lived at 775 East Yalu Road, Shanghai and her father was 'Gotoda' and his occupation was a 'Storekeeper'. The marriage at the British Consulate meant he was a British citizen - ie. he was born in a British territory eg, Hong Kong OR his father was a British citizen. Alfred Arthur Alarkia was in fact born in Hong Kong 25th October 1897 (from Masako [sic] Alarakia's death certificate, with her death on 20th December 1972 in Kuwamura Ohe-gun Tokoshima, Japan)
3) Masako Alarakia died on 20th December 1972 at Kuwamura, Ohe-gun Tokoshima, Japan. The death was registered, curiously at the British Consul in Osaka on 11th Janaury 1973, via a letter from a Father Bonang, a Roman Catholic Priest who enclosed a local death certificate. Father Bonang was living at the Catholic Mission 2-chrome, Tokushima-honcho, Takushima-shi, Shikoku, Japan. By extension of her marriage to a British subject., Masako was a British citizen.
4) At this stage I do not know when or where Alfred Arthur Alarakia died and whether he had issue.
5) Omar Moosdeen, born in Canton on 19th November 1908, was the son of Aboo Bakr Moosdeen (sic) BUT his mother was Marriam Madar and not Zaitun ('Cherry') Alarakia. At this stage I do not know when and where Marriam Moosdeen (nee Madar) died.
6) Abu Bakr Moosdeen was a merchant and born in Hong Kong on 22nd February 1877 (info from his death certificate) and he died in Apartment 2, 34 Rue de France, Tientsin on 8th March 1946. This was the address of A.A. Rumjahn (a distant cousin of mine) who registered his death the next day at the British Consulate in Tientsin. Abu Bakr Moosdeen's address at the time of his death was No. 36, 47th Road, ex British Concession, Tientsin.
All this is a work in progress, I hope this helps
Cheers
David
Thanks for this David, You
Thanks for this David, You have been very helpful. I seem to have come to a dead end at the moment. I did however research the Carl Smith records and that is where I got my info regarding Abu Bakr Moosdeen and Cherry Alarakia as well as obituries from the HK Telegraph indicating Cherry was married to a 'Moosdeen' It is known however that AB Moosdeen was married at least 2 or 3 times. One of his wives was supposed to have been a Pakistani lady. The Carl Smith records indicated Omar as being AB and Cherry's only son. I will have to re-appraise my evidence suppose.
As far as the blog is concerned I continue to update it as a word doc. Maybe when it is more complete I will post it to this site for you to peruse.
Thanks again. You have been a massive help.
Regards
Ken
More info:
More info:
https://www.chinafamilies.net/directories/
Alfred Arthur J Alarakia was interned at Great Western Road, Shanghai in June 1943 and later transferred to Yangtzepoo April 1945. He was a Godown Superintendent at the China Printing Company.
His wife Gotoda Alarakia was deemed an enemy national (British) and lived at 42 Kungping Terrace. She was 47 years old in 1944 and of no occupation. Interestingly she may have escaped the internment camp because she was ethnically Japanese.
They had an adopted son, a student called John Stephen Alarakia, who was 18 years old in 1945. He was classed as British and interned the same places and times as his adopted father.
Thanks David,
Thanks David,
I have still to establish AAJ Alarakia's relationship to my immediate family. The family naming convention means he is not likely to have been Abdulla Sewjee's son. It is possible that Sewjee Alarakia had more than two sons himself and AAJ could belong to another. If he were Abdulla Sewjee's son then his name would be Albert Arthur Sewjee Alarakia and not 'J' as indicated. For the record Adulla's second son was Saloman born in May 1898. His first Arthur was born in Oct 1897
The plot thickens methinks.
As for Abu Bakir Moosdeen. My AB Moosdeen went by the nake Abu Baker Moosdeen and was alive and kicking in the 1970's. My cousin clearly recalls attending his wedding to a Pakistani lady. He was a manager for C.Rahim & Son in HK. He was definitely not the Merchant mentioned in the 1902 Chronicle & Directory for China etc.
Keep going!
Regards
Ken
Yes, I agree (about needing
Yes, I agree (about needing corroborating evidence). It's like having at least 3 pieces of information to triangulate the facts, like the 3 legs of a stool. For some things you can never be 100% sure but working towards the most probable is the best that can be done at times.
For Alfred Arthur and John Stephen, they were initially interned at the Columbia Country Club Camp at 301 Great Western Road
https://www.fepow.family/Research/Far_East_Internees/html/columbia_country_club.htm
I was intrigued about your comment about the styling of the name. The notes of the intrnees from that webpage were after all transcribed from original documents (which I haven't seen). Over the years I have seen numerous times the letters 'J' and 'S' being mis-transcribed. If Alfred Arthur J Alarakia was actually Alfred Arthur S Alarakia, that would be even more tantalising!
There was a John Stephen Joseph Alarakia in the 1958 Australia Electoral Rolls living at 111 Dolphin Street, Coogee, Phillip, New South Wales.
Yes, there was another A. Bakr Moosdeen in Hong Kong who was well alive in the 1980s. He was the next of kin for Zahara Moosdeen (nee ?) (1896-16th May 1980) who was in HK.
Yes, I will keep looking and keep you posted if I find anything. Thanks for chipping in with any bits of info and thoughts.
Thanks David,
Thanks David,
I am not sure if the last ABM is the same one who was married to Cherry but I will check it further as it was known that our ABM did marry again after Cherry's death. The naming convention used by our family matches that of the Parsee and Gujarati Hindu in that it follows 'First name + Fathers first name+Last name. for both men and women. The history passed down is that they were originally Parsee, but that has still to be settled. It has been mentioned that as both communities lived side by side for centuruies that some practices were adopted by each other.
I have seen the info about John Stephen Alarakia. He was naturalised I believe in Australia around 1958.
Stay posted
Regards
Ken
Yahara Alarakia
Hi Ken, I have come across a Yahara Alarakia. See below newspaper clipping. The birth year should be about the mid 1890s. Would you know where this individual fits into the tree?
“BELILIOS PUBLIC SCHOOL.
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The prizes so kindly given annually by Mr. R.E. Belilios to the pupils in Belilios Public School who excel in the subject of English composition were yesterday presented to the successful candidates by Mr. Edward Irving, Inspector of Schools. The following are the names of the prize winners: -
Mabel Long, Rose Ablong, Mabel Mooney, Yahara Alarakia, (?)ung A. Nui, Cheung Fook To, Li Tsing Lim, and Chan Bik Harm.
A vote of thanks was accorded to Mr. Belilios and Mr. Irving on the motion of Mabel Long, the dux of the school.”
Source: The Hong Kong Weekly Press and China Overland Report, page 530, 21st June 1909
Edit: Just re-read my older post above on 16th July 2020. I wonder if the wife of A. Bakr Moosdeen, called Zahara Moosdeen (nee?) (1896-16th May 1980) was actually nee Yahara Alarakia. Zahara and Yahara are two differnt names though, but the date of birth would fit.
Yahara Alarakia
Thanks David,
Yes it is very intriguing. I have not come across a Yahara, nor for that matter a Zahara Alarakia with those dates. It is somthing I will have to investigate. As with AAJ it is likely that names have been mispelt with each transcription. AAS would fit but I need copies of original documents to get to the bottom of it. Thankfully I think I have all the names I need for my grandfathers siblings, but it is Mahomed Sewjees siblings that is proving the most difficult to pin down.
What I have noticed however is how intertwined the HongKong Indian families were. I noticed on the C.Smith records that Ayesha Moosdeen was married to Ahmet Rumjahn. Also that Usaf Rumjahn was married to Fatora Madar.As both the Arab and Alarakia families were both married into the Moosdeens at different times it seems we all have somthing in common. Parties must have been expensive to put on.
Keep up the good work
Take care
Ken
Yes, totally agree about how
Yes, totally agree about how they are all intertwined! The Rumjahns mentioned (they were brothers) are my family:
Ahmet Rumjahn (16th May 1863-30th November 1925)
Ayesha (Aisha) Moosdeen (1864-15th Janaury 1935)
Usuff Rumjahn (2nd February 1865-27th February 1947)
Fatima Madar (6th January 1872-22nd June 1932)
I must try to not take the
I must try to not take the Carl Smith Records spelling on face value. I have noticed it is not always correct or consistant, Fatora for Fatima does not even come close, Is Fatora even a name?
Take care and stay safe
Ken
A. Alarachia
Here is another little find from The China Mail, page 3, 13th July 1885:
A. Alarachia would be in the generation with Sewjee Alarakia (1843-21st Jun 1890). He gave $5 to the relief fund of the devastating Guangdong Flood of 1885 where an estimated 10,000 people lost their lives. I recognise some of the names there. To give you a potential age bracket for A. Alarachia, we have Mohamed Haji Madar (1845 Hong Kong-23rd Jun 1894 Hong Kong) and Abdullah Fuckeera (18th Oct 1857 Hong Kong-3rd Sept 1920 Hong Kong). It's possible A. Alarachia was a brother of Sewjee. Will continue to keep a lookout for more Alarakias.
A.Alarachia
Thanks for this David. I must say I have not come across this spelling of the name. It may be some ones litteral translation of a spoken word. Anyway it is very interesting and maybe warrants further investgation.
Take care
Ken
Alarakia Mahomed from Rua Cental, Macau
Hi,
Would Alarakia Mahomed whose name is in the 1905 China Directory under the shop name hajee mahomed 51,52 rua central be connected to your family in any way?
Alarakia Mahomed
Hi,
Mahomed Alarakia was my great grandfather (Mahomed Sewjee Alarakia)
In 1904 Mahomed was listed in the Directory and Chronicle for China, Japan etc as a clerk for the Macao branch of Hajee Mahomed & Co Miliners and Drapers of Bombay. A paper from the 1980s titled South Asian Muslims in Hong Kong Creation of a Local Boy Identity by the US academic Anita M Weiss stated he was in fact a Cloth trader however I have found no evidence to say he traded in his own right.
Any further info you might have would be gratly appreciated.
Thanks and take care
Ken
Hajee Mahomed Rana
Hi
I'm just starting off on my journey to reconnect with my ancestors, all I know is that Hajee Mahomed Rana was my 5th Great Grand Father,
I think Hajee Mahomed Ranas sons name was Rhamtoola Hajee Mahomed even though the directory states he was a shop assistant,
Also, I think he's connected to Rhamtoola (Ray) Mahomed Alarakia but this is just guessing due to the similarity in names and because his name features in the 1912 directory alongside R. Elias (who i think is the son of rhamtoola hajee mahomed) he'd be 12 years old though,
This is just pure conjecture still but I am on the look out for anything that could connect the dots
I will keep you posted if I find anything worth sharing, hope you will do the same
Thanks
Alarakia Mahomed
This is not a name I am familiar with but I got a good start by looking at the Carl Smith collection (https://search.grs.gov.hk/en/searchcarl.xhtml?q=Mahomed+AND+Arab&page=1) this link will take you to the last search I did. Use this to search for your ancestors using capital letters when typing the word AND. If your people are in these records you should start to get clues as to their contempories etc. Good luck
Rhamatula (Ray) Alarakia by the way is my grandfathers younger brother.
Regards
Ken
DNA haplogroup of male descendent of H Mahomed Rana
Hi, I'd recently got the dna test of a male descendent of H Mahomed Rana done the paternal haplogroup is R-Y1334, since I read in the comments that it might be possible to link the male descendants through haplogroup
Regards
DNA Test
I did a DNA test with Ancestry.co.uk but it is not that good. They only tell you who you are linked to within their data base. They tell you your ethnicity but do not give any Haplogroup info so not of much use really.
Regards
Ken
Alfred Alarakia
Hi
I'm researching my family tree and I think Alfred Alarakia may have been the son of my Great Grandmother, Annie Hazel Asger from her first marriage.
On my Grandmother's marriage certificate to Henry Bone in 1904 Hong Kong, it states she was a widower and her surname when she married Henry was Alarakia. She was 27 years old.
I've been told that she had 2 sons from her first marriage. My mother thinks one of them was called Alfred and he married a Japanese girl who my mum thinks was called Daisy. (My mum is 83 so her memory isn't as clear as it was). They lived in Hong Kong.
My Great Grandmother was interned whilst in Shanghai in the 1940s.
This is all I know, but I am wondering if they are the same people?
Alarakia - merchants
If these are the Alarakia's I am searching for, I was told they were merchants training in silk, spices and jewels.
Alfred Alarakia
Hi,
I have tried in the past to get information regarding Alfred Alarakia. Below are some notes from another contributor on this site.
Alfred Arthur Alarakia's father was Abdoola Alarakia (ie. I assume it's Adbulla Sewjee Alarakia 1872-26th May 1898). This information was on his marraige certificate of 17th October 1921 at the British Consulate General in Shanghai. Alfred Alarakia's occupation was a Stenographer and Clerical Assistant, he was a Bachelor and he lived at 775 East Yalu Road, Shanghai. His father was deceased by that date and his occupation was listed as Clerical Assistant. His wife was Gotoda Masano (sic), she was a spinster, lived at 775 East Yalu Road, Shanghai and her father was 'Gotoda' and his occupation was a 'Storekeeper'. The marriage at the British Consulate meant he was a British citizen - ie. he was born in a British territory eg, Hong Kong OR his father was a British citizen. Alfred Arthur Alarkia was in fact born in Hong Kong 25th October 1897 (from Masako [sic] Alarakia's death certificate, with her death on 20th December 1972 in Kuwamura Ohe-gun Tokoshima, Japan)
3) Masako Alarakia died on 20th December 1972 at Kuwamura Ohe-gun Tokoshima, Japan. The death was registered, curiously at the British Consul in Osaka on 11th Janaury 1973, via a letter from a Father Bonang, a Roman Catholic Priest who enclosed a local death certificate. Father Bonang was living at the Catholic Mission 2-chrome, Tokushima-honcho, Takushima-shi, Shikoku, Japan. By extension of her marriage to a British subject., Masako was a British citizen.
4) At this stage I do not know when or where Alfred Arthur Alarakia died and whether he had issue.
Abdulla was my Great Grandfathers younger brother. He died aged twenty six while in the service of the Post Office. The following is a passage from my notes:
Mohamed Sewjee Alarakia had at least one brother living in Hong Kong. He was Abdulla Sewjee Alarakia son of Sewjee 1872 to 26 May 1898. He also attended the Government Central School where he also won numerous prizes for accademic attainment. The date of his birth suggests he either left India as a newborn/infant or was actually born in HK. If it was the latter it means Sewjee brought his wife with him. I have however been unable to find any reference to her. If on the other hand the child was brought to HK, what happened to his mother? Did she travel to HK? Did she simply stay behind in India or did she die in childbirth or shortly after?
He worked as a clerk at the HK Post Office. It seems he died in service although details of his death are not yet discovered suffice to say Abdulla's son Salomon was born 27 May 1898 and received a pension which ceased at age 18 in 1916. Alfred Abdulla his first son was born 25 Oct 1887.
I hope this gives you an idea of the Alarakias. It would appear according to an american accademic that they were indeed traders from India. It is suggested they were cloth/textile merchants but I have yet to see any evidence of trading in their own right.
Regards
Ken
Carl Smith Microfilm records in Family Search
Hi,
Found this record on Abdoola Allarakhia while going through the records in search of Mahomed Rana https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSV8-Z41R?i=77&cat=567172
Not sure what it is but thought it might be of use
Mahomed Arab
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSV8-Z6QM?i=129&cat=567...
Carl Smith Collection
Thanks for these. I have already downloaded the records relating to the Alarakia and Arab families.
Take care
Ken
Fibis Records
So another resource i've been using is the fibis database, they've transcribed old indian papers and made the data searchable,
https://fibis.ourarchives.online/bin/aps_detail.php?id=1562787 - hope this helps, A.Allarukhias departure from bombay to hong kong
Fibis Database
Yes thanks for this also. I do however already use it.
Regards
Ken
Uploading DNA result in Myheritage
Hey about the autosomal DNA test, I've found a better database of south asians in myhertiage than I have in most other sites, you might want to try uploading the test results there and it might just help
Regards
Yes, thats something to think
Yes, thats something to think about.
"Allarakia, Noor Mohamed,
"Allarakia, Noor Mohamed, Sons & Co." listed as residents of Macao in "The Hong Kong Directory: With List of Foreign Residents in China" published 1859
See page 17 or Image 30 of 111
Thanks David,
Thanks David,
I think I have seen this already. It is regards Adam Allarakia. The issue I have with him is wether he is linked to my Great Great grandfather or not. They would certainly have been contempories but I ahve so far been unable to establish any link.
Thanks again
Ken
R.M. Alarakia
Ken, when I posted the piece about Mrs Otto Kongsing's funeral (SCMP 13 August, 1925), I meant to mention that R.M. Alarakia was among the group of people who sent floral tributes. Is he the same as Rhamatulla (‘Ray’) Mohamed Alarakia (1900-30th May 1974) - your grandfather's younger brother?
Hi Jill,
Hi Jill,
Yes, RM Alarakia was indeed my Grandfathers younger brother Rhamatulla Mohamed aka Ray. I must admit though I did not read your oringinal post. I will make a point of doing so now.
Take care
Ken
hI Ken,
Hi Ken,
Go to FindaGrave and punch in 'Alarakia' in the surname search engine and voila
Thanks for this David, I did
Thanks for this David, I did however have photos of the family graves in Happy Valley but not the others. My cousin in HK did some trekking.
Thanks again and take care
Ken
You're welcome. The
You're welcome. The gravestones do add a few more details here and there. I'd like to point out though that the headstone of Rubyia Alarakia (nee ?), wife of Cassim Mohamed Alarakia has the death date as 24th April 1947 which is an error - it should be 24th March 1947 and she was buried the next day on 25th March 1947, based on the cemetery records, which go by strict chronological order for the grave numbers, so the death of those before and after her buried in the cemetery occured in March so it can not be the April date as per headstone.
Thanks David, I will note
Thanks David, I will note that.
Regards
Ken
Early China coast meteorology : the role of Hong Kong
Hi
This book mentions mohamed alarakhia - https://epdf.pub/early-china-coast-meteorology-the-role-of-hong-kong-188...
See the index
Thankyou Salmandaw,
Thankyou Salmandaw,
It is something I have been aware of for some time now. Thanks for your trouble and interest.
Take care
Ken
Ancestral birth place of Alarakia
Hi Ken, the reason I was looking up your GG grandfather was to ascertain his connection to my 5th G grandfather Hajee Mahomed Rana, since his name featured in the shop which he owned, I'll be visiting Bhuj, Kutch in Gujarat next month to find out more about Hajee Mahomed Rana , do you happen to know the ancestral home of Alarakia Mohammad ? was he a Memon Muslim?
All I am able to tell you is
All I am able to tell you is that he was muslim. I deduced he and his father and brother Sewjee and Abdullah originated in Cutch but I am not certain. My research points to at least one Ebrahim Alarakia came from there but I do not know his relationship to my ancestors.They wereI believe Textile Merchants.
Unfortunately the trail before my G.Grandfather is rather cold.
Thanks again for your interest and good hunting as they say.
Ken
Mahomed Sewjee Alarakia (1866
Mahomed Sewjee Alarakia (1866-1920)
Your greatgrandfather's wedding Hong Kong evening 23rd May 1884 :
“YESTERDAY evening, a novelty in the way of processions delighted and amused a portion of the native population and foreigners resident in the Colony. About nine o’clock, a bridal party of Mohomedans formed up at the bridegroom’s house in Gage Street, and proceeded slowly along the Central streets to the residence of the bride’s parents. To Europeans, the procession presented a very strange appearance from the fact that in it were mixed up, in the strangest manner possible, oriental customs and western ideas. The relatives and friends of the bridegroom, - some in ordinary European carriages, others on foot and others again on horseback – occupied the interior of the procession, the outside of which was formed by a cordon of youthful Celestials, bearing each a gaily coloured lamp. The poles on which the lamps were hung were attached to each other, at an interval of a few yards, by a parti-coloured cord, so that the procession was compelled to move in unison. Those of the relatives and friends who occupied the carriages, were dressed in ordinary European custome, but those who came after on foot and horseback were clothed in the Mahomedan dress. The bridegroom, who brought up the rear, was preceded by a band composed of a violin, melodeon, banjo, and a big drum! The later instrument was drummed at incessantly to the same time, quite regardless of the air being played by the performers. The banjo player was a stalwart Ethiopian, the violinist a little man wearing spectacles, and the melodeon player a young man without any distinctive features. Each seemed to be playing in his own melodious way, and the only harmony that seemed to come from the combination was from the big drum, which made itself heard whether its rivals were audible or not. Whether the band was intended to have a soothing and calming effect on the young bridegroom or not, we cannot say. At any rate he had to endure this sort of thing until he arrived at the bride’s house, where, we have no doubt, he was recompensed for his heroic endurance. The bridegroom himself was the feature of the procession. This was as it ought to be. He was seated on one of the most fiery and tallest steeds the Colony possesses, and he was supported on either side by a relative, or friend (whether to keep him from falling off or not, we cannot say), while another countryman took care that his mount did not run away. His jacket was made of what seemed crimson coloured silk; and his face and head were almost completely hidden by what had the appearance in the dark of extenuated curled shavings. We were afterwards told they were flowers. The effect of the whole was more comical than beautiful. However, we suppose the bridegroom enjoyed himself.
The procession caused great excitement among the Chinese, who expressed their delight in the most approved native fashion.
The marriage took place last night, but we understand the bride, in accordance with ‘olo’ custom, does not leave the parental roof for a day or two.”
Source: The China Mail, page 3, 24th May 1884
Matches with description in the Japan Daily Mail, Volume 1, page 556, 14th June 1884
And job success a month later:
“Mr Mahomed Alarakia has been appointed, provisionally, to be second assistant in the Observatory, vice Mr Solomon Reuben Solomon, resigned. The appointment was obtained by competition, the winner defeating nine other competitors and counting 1,285 marks out of a possible 1,500. The subjects in which the competitors were examined were reading, handwriting, dictation, copying, composition, and arithmetic.”
Source: The China Mail, page 3, 23rd June 1884
Once again I have to thankyou
Once again I have to thankyou David, though heaven knows how you managed to find it. No matter how hard I have tried I never seem to have any luck. I will post this to my blog with thanks to you.
Regards
Ken
In case you are not aware I have re-instated the blog at:
https://alarakiafamilyofhongkong.blogspot.com/
You’re welcome. Ken. It’s
You’re welcome. Ken. It’s remarkable you have at least two descriptions of your greatgrandparents’ wedding recorded. Not many people can say that! The spectacle is like something out of Aladdin. I’m glad you have attempted to reignite your blog. Hopefully we can both learn from each other with more new finds.
I have transcribed the other version of the wedding ceremony here:
“THERE was a great turn-out last night, says the Hongkong Telegraph of the 24th ult., on the occasion of the marriage of Mr. Alarakia, assistant master in the Government Central School, to a young Indian lady, daughter of the late Mahomed Arab. An imposing procession, in which five carriages, and some half a dozen horses ridden by friends of the happy pair, figured, started from the residence of the bridegroom in Gage-street shortly before nine o’clock, traversing Wellington and D’Aguilar streets, then proceeding down Queen’s Road Central, and turning again into Wellington-street at the corner below No. 5 Police Station, thence wending its way up Graham-street and finally reaching the bride’s residence in Peel Street. Banjoes, violins, drums, concertinas, &c., played by a number of experts, served to enliven matters generally as the procession pursued its course, and some 250 Japanese colored lanterns, all alight, carried on two bamboo poles from which they depended, together with numerous blue-lights, lent additional splendour to the display. A conspicuous figure was the bridegroom himself as he appeared mounted on a lofty Pegasus, arrayed, in Arabian style, in a long crimson colored satin dress and turban. Talk about floral embellishments! The to-day happy man literally revelled in flowers, garlands hanging down in great profusion from the top of his head to the soles of his feet, both in front and rear. A Mahomedan priest made the couple fast at the bride’s house, where the processionists and other friends were regaled with refreshments and music until four or five o’clock this morning. The redoubtable MacBean of the Supreme Court, appeared in the procession driving one of the carriages, and wore an expression almost as solemn and impressive as that of Sir George Phillippo when sentencing a prisoner for libel. Mr. Kennedy of the Horse Repository must have made a good thing out of the affair, as we understand the horses and carriages were all obtained from his stables.
So much information can be gleaned from them:
1) Your 2ggrandfather Mahomed Arab was one of the original 4 representatives who applied for a piece of land from the HK Government, which was granted in 1850, to build a mosque and he then became one of its Trustees. He would be one of the elders of the local Muslim community – he wouldn’t let his daughter get married to someone far from his faith (or in this case, more accurately the mother or another senior male relative, as Mahomed Arab was alerady deceased by this time). So safe to say even though you suspect Mahomed Alarakia may be Parsi in origin ethnically, his religion is Islam and of the Sunni branch.
2) Yes, back then the girls got married real young. As in early teens. I have come across several examples.
3) We now know where each family lived in 1884 – Alarakia – Gage Street; Arab – Peel Street. Worth exploring the communities in these streets.
4) Mahomed Alarakia was clearly a well-educated, bright, ambitious, conscientious and analytical young man. His educational achievements indirectly reflect the high value of education placed by his father – Sewjee Alarakia (1843-1890).
5) The baraat firmly indicated the Alarakia’s customs lay firmly with the Indian sub-continent.
6) The wedding took place at night – traditionally highly recommended according to hadith. My grandparents’ nikkah in Hong Kong 1930s also took place at night.
7) MacBean of the Supreme Court and Kennedy of the Horse Repository’s involvement were mentioned – clues that maybe Mr Sewjee Alarakia knew them well enough for such strings to be pulled. Worth exploring.
Also for the Central Government School prize giving ceremony on 10th February 1882:
"Anglo-Chinese Class.
First Division, - 1, U. Ramjahn, watch, presented by Acting Chief Justice F. Snowden; 2, M. Alarakia, Cyclopedia, presented by Mr. A.G. Romano.
Second Division, - 1, S.A.J. Mahomet, Natural History, presented by Mr. A.G. Romano; 2, Om. Madar, Little Folks, presented by Mr. A.G. Romano.
Third Division, - 1, A. Alarakia, pocket lens, presented by Dr. Stewart; 2, F. Aguiar, studs."
Source: The China Mail, page 3, 10th February 1882
NB. U. Ramjahn = my greatgranduncle. So again my family knew yours.
Also, at the funeral of your grandfather:
“OBITUARY
Mr. E.M. Alarakia Laid To Rest
Many friends and relatives attended the funeral at the Mohammedan Cemetery yesterday of Mr. E.M. Alarakia, a member of a well-known Indian family and who passed away on Sunday.
Mulvi Noor Shah officiated and besides family mourners those present included Mulvi Ma Tai-ng, Haji A.R. Abbas, Haji M. Azim, Dr. H. el Arculli, Mr. V.C. Labrum, Mr. C.L. Clarke, Mr. A. Remedios, Mr. S.A. Sepher, Dr. S.R.R. Sepher, Mr. H.T. Barma, Mr. Kayamally, Mr. Tyeb, Mr. E.A. Hussain, Mr. Mehdi Nemazee, Mr. C. Rahim, Mr. K.H. Kikabhoy, Mr. R.G. Markar, Mr. A.G. Markar, Mr. E.R. Markar, Mr. J. Anderson, Mr. C.O. Baptista, Mr. M. Sabhan, Mr. R.M. Omar, Mr. K.M. Omar, Mr. O.M. Omar, Mr. A.M. Omar, Mr. M.P. Madar, Mr. S.A. Ismail, Mr. S.F. Ismail, Mr. M.H. Hussain, Mr. A.K. Minu, Mr. A.R. Minu, Mr. S.D. Mehal, Mr. I. Haroon, Mr. N. Nazarin, Mr. K. Nazarin, Mr. J.M.A. Ramjahn, Mr. S.A. Rumjahn, Mr. A. Mannan Rumjahn, Mr. A.M. Rumjahn, Mr. A.R. Dallah, Mr. M.Y. Adal, Mr. A.R.M. Arab, Mr. A.R. Samy, Mr. B.A. Hyder, Mr. A.M. Wahab, Mr. M.A. Wahab, Mr. L.A. Gutierrez, Mr. M.I. Razack, Mr. I.M.A. Razack, Mr. U.A. Esmail, Mr. A. Bux, Mr. S.A.R. Bux, Mr. S.A.D. Rahman, Mr. S.A. Hamid, Mr. T. Ali, Staff of the Ye Olde Printerie and others.
Floral tributes were from Mother; Jaf and wife; Cassim, wife and family; Sophie, Tong and family, Fatima, Mary, Helen, Ray, Ikey, Cherry and family.
Mr. and Mrs. C.F.Z. da Roza, Mr. and Mrs. Ng Luen-kwong and family, Mr. and Mrs. M. Sabhan, Kwong Yee and family, Mrs. A.H. Abbas and family, Messrs. D. Nickson, Chan Lai-chuen, Chan Man-so, Ho Pah-chi, Kwok Shing, Dr. Wong Chi-po, Hak Kuen-wing, Tsoi To-lung, Yeung Ling-man, Yeung Chi-tong.
Ye Olde Printerie, Ltd., the Press Department, the Office Staff, Linotype and Composing Department and Binding Department, of the Ye Olde Printerie Ltd., Man Sun Printing Co., staff of the Ling-nam School, and others.”
Source: The Hong Kong Telegraph (Second Edition), page 12, 13th June 1939 (note page 24 in the digitized archive)
My grandfather (M.I. Razack) was at his funeral. Thus again, another generation of my family knew yours.
NB Also Sophie Neves (nee Alarakia) was still alive then. She did not die in 1935 - just riffing on your blog post. I put the notation ">1935" as death date meaning the last known mention of her was in 1935 (prior to finding this 1939 obituary where she is mentioned) so she must have died after that date, rather than she died in 1935. It's my notation style to help me narrow my searches. Chances are if she married a Portuguese she may be buried in the Catholic cemetery
Thanyou again David,
Thanyou again David,
You have been and are a great source of knowledge. I am going to post this further info verbatum upto but excluding the last paragraph into the blog. It does not need any editing from me and I just want to share with all the subscribers whoever and wherever they may be.
I am forever grateful
Take care
Ken
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