13 Nov 1942, John Charter's wartime journal | Gwulo: Old Hong Kong

13 Nov 1942, John Charter's wartime journal

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Fri, 13 Nov 1942

My last entry was made on the Armistice Day Anniversary of the last World War. On the previous Sunday, 8th Nov., we had an Armistice Day Sunday Service. It was conducted by Revd E. Sandbach, he being chosen as the only person in camp who fought in the last war as a soldier. He gave an inspiring address; his theme being that the sacrifices of those who died in both the last war and in this were made in the faith and belief that they were setting the stage for a world at peace; that it is the duty of those who survive to see these sacrifices are not made in vain again and to dedicate oneself afresh to God and His kingdom on earth. Mr Sandbach read three of Rupert Booke’s poems and “We will remember them”.  Wreathes and poppies made in camp were placed on many of the war graves. It must have been a sad day for many in this camp, living on the very battlefield on which their husbands and sons were killed and with their graves in their midst. All those that I know have been wonderfully plucky. We observed no 2 minutes silence on the 11th; I believe the 2 minutes silence has been discontinued in England since this second war began.

I have many memories of past Armistice Day observances: last year Y and I stood alone in the hills above Tytam reservoir, where we had taken our food for a picnic; I can remember the silent and crowded scene at St Giles Circus in London where we used to go from the Architectural Association, the motionless men on scaffolding and in the suspended cradles on the façade of an adjacent building, the two sounds of a flag flapping at half mast and the jingle of a horse shaking it’s bridle miles down New Oxford Street. I can remember the little service on the greenswood outside the estate office at Welwyn Garden City when an ex-army bugler sounded a somewhat uncertain “Last Post” on his old bugle. But during the last war I was too young to remember any lost individuals; it was, to me, far more a national and international day of remembrance. Now, alas, I shall associate Armistice Day with the loss of many good friends. Still, Armistice Day for this war has not yet been fixed and, who knows, we may yet have some more work to do.

News lately has been magnificent: the Germans virtually finished in Libya (one cannot fail to pay tribute in passing to the brilliant soldiering of the German General Rommel); that the Americans have landed and occupied many parts of French and Italian North Africa; that air raids have been continuing in Hong Kong chiefly over Kowloon and New Territories. We sometimes hear distant thuds and we hear and see on nearly all days planes buzzing about to the N.E. They are too high to identify markings, but the drone of the engines are different between the Americans and the Japanese planes and we spend our time listening and guessing. Harold saw three planes yesterday, unmistakably going down behind the hills in steep dives, one after the other. Anyway, the Japanese, who seem to be doing their best to keep out of the camp news of air raids, made a pretty naïve admission of them on Wednesday.

Last Friday morning the camp was buzzing with the incredulous rumour that all men between and including the ages of 21 and 34 were to be put in prison. After the lunch meal an official notice was posted which stated that men of these ages who had not got their wives in camp with them were to spend the hours between 6:30 p.m. and 7:00 a.m. in the prison.

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I may be a bit slow on the uptake here, but I find myself very puzzled by a comment contained in the captioned journal. This is the one found early in the piece, where reference is made to the Armistice Day service being conducted by the Rev. E. Sandbach, "he being chosen as being the only person in Camp who fought in the last war as a soldier."

This is patently incorrect. I can think of at least two internees, off the top of my head and without conducting any research, who served as soldiers during the Great War.

The first is Captain Ernest Batty-Smith who served with the Loyal North Lancashire Regiment and who was A.D.C. to H. E. The Governor at the outbreak of the Pacific War. The second is Major-General Francis "One-Armed" Sutton, who served with the Royal Engineers and who won the M.C. at the Battle of Gallipoli. Both internees died whilst in captivity in the Camp.

A modicum of research will reveal plenty of others, but space and time do not permit the drawing up of an exhaustive list.

As I have mentioned, I may be missing something here. My apologies if I am and I would be very grateful to anyone who could "put me right."

It was written as a private journal, so we'll never know for sure what he had in mind, but as he's talking about the choice of who'd lead the church services for Armistice Day would "clergyman" make more sense?

It was conducted by Revd E. Sandbach, he being chosen as the only [clergyman] in camp who fought in the last war as a soldier.

Thanks for your reply, David.

I must be honest, that possibility did cross my mind. Not absolutely clear from the Journal entry though.

I think everyone is missing a quite important point here......and that is both people mentioned had already died during the period of captivity, so how can one expect them to come and lead the service?

Thank you

I must disagree with you here, Bill. According to their headstones and other records, Batty-Smith died in 1945 and One-armed Sutton in 1944. Charter is writing about Armistice Day 1942, when both of the other 2 men were still alive. So either of them could have led the service.

But my original point was simply to question the accuracy, or otherwise, of the bald statement "he being chosen as the only person in camp who fought in the last war as a soldier." My contention is that there others in camp, besides Sandbach, who fought in WW1.

I am inclined to agree with David in that it is very possible Charter was referring to Sandbach as being the only religious minister who served in WW1 as a soldier.