Florence HAUGLAND (née SAYCE) [1901-1978]

Florence Haugland is my grandmother. She was born 15.12.1901 and died in Norway 09.12.1978.

Esther Ruth Eriksen, born Haugland, is my mother. She was born 21.04.1924 in Hong Kong. She died in Norway 07.07.1983. Her father was Harald Fredrik Haugland, born 06.09.1885 and died 04.06.1927 in Marseilles in France. The family had been in Norway to visit family and was on there way home to Hong Kong.

If anyone have knowledge to either my mother or grandmother I would like to know. I am trying to find relatives. My grandmother had a sister in Canada, Fanny Sayce Butt, she died in Canada, Vancouver BC on the 11th of april 1988. I know my grandmother had another sister, who lived in Israel and an older brother who lived in Hong Kong. I do not have their names or the names of their parents. So I would be gratefull for any help at all.

Thank You very much! I knew they went to England after the war before they returned to Hong Kong . But I did not know where and how long

Jan H Eriksen (grandson/son)

I am sorry that i have no information about this. The maiden name can be Sayce (Sayze?) I know she was born in Bagdad 1901 (my father thougt she was born in 1899). I think she must hav married my grandfather Harald Fredrik Haugland 1920 or 1921. She had a sister in Canada, Vancouver. Her name is Fanny Sayce Butt. She was Born 14th of august 1895 and died 11th of april 1988. She is burried at :

May I ask how You know my grandmother? I have been searching for relatives of my mother for a long time, but have had no luck until this Year when I found her sister on "MyHeritage". But still not anything about their parents. My mother said they had relatives in England, named Sassoon. She also told me she was married before she married my father. His name was William (or Bill) Bailey I think. I have now learned that my mother married John G Bailey in spring 1946, in Derby; Lancashire, England.

Florence Haugland born on 15th of desember 1901 and died on the 9th of desember 1978

Thank You again. This is usefull for me. I do not think Florence Baily is the correkt person. It was my mother Esther   Ruth who married William Baily.
Thank You again

I have now found that my mother married John G Bailey in West Derby, Lancashire, England in spring 1946. But I could not fin any other information on John G Bailey.

Jan Harald

Thank You, we will have a look to se if this coluld be the brother.

Jan Harald

I think I must think about that. My hope was to find my grandmothers parents names and of possible a bit of their history. And also the second sister and the older brother of my granmother. I am a retired naval offiser so I thought I would try to find some family history for my children and grandchildren. So I am not sure this is the right way for us to go. I hope it does not look like I'm not grateful for the help I got,  bit much of this is new for me and not what I expected. In fact I am not sure what I expected to find. Anyhow, I am very grateful for Your help and interest.
 

jan Harald 

Yes we will not stop now, but we need too think more about how to proceed. One of my daughters have already had an DNA test, and found relatives in the Sasson family. So she is following up that.

Jan Harald

That's very exciting! could You provide a copy or an image of it?

Thank You very much! This was emotional for me to se! And I knew his fathers name Christian Haugland. The mother was    Hanna Haugland.

I am grateful for all Your help finding my grandmothers fathers name. So I hope I will be avle to find more details of him and his wife. I Know this will be dificult. Some of the slites I have seen is written in Hebro, and this is a language I never learned. Bit again, thank You annelisec

I now know that her maiden name was Florence Sayce. On her wedding certificate her fathers name was stated Jacob Sayce. She was married on the 11th of February 1922 in Shanghai. She married a Norwegian, Harald Fredrik Haugland. They must have been living ther because my mother Esther Ruth Haugland was born in Shanghai on the 21th of April 1924.Her elder brother must have been Kelly Sayce ( aka Kadourie Cohen). When he died on the 14th of december 1932 he left his estate to Florence Haugland, his sister , it was stated in the Suth China Morning Post.

I just want to say I am very grateful for all You are doing. As You have seen this would be dificult for me to find. I have been to Hong Kong once in my life, as a small kid, so I am not familiar with either Hong Kong or Shanghai, so that means I do not know where too look for details. Many of the books and lists I never heard of before now. The adress on the wedding certificate I was not able to read, and as I never heard of the street names in Shanghai I could not guess the name either. So thanks again.

I have now found out that my mother travelled from Liverpool 22 may 1947 under the name  Mrs. Esther Ruth Bailey. so she may have been trtavelling together with my grandmother Florence Haugland if she also was on the M/s Sarpedon

Florence Haugland married my grandfather Harald Fredrik Haugland in Shanghai on the 11th of February 1922. Her maiden name was stated as Sayce on the wedding certificate and her father was stated as Jacob Sayce and that he had died before this date.

all the best

Jan Harald Eriksen

Hi

Do You know if the husband of Esther Ruth Bailey, John G Bailey, also was on the ship?

all the best

Jan H Eriksen