Caine Road re-numbering

Pasting tables into the website often has odd effects. If you want to fit the table into the width of the page (example below), you can click the "Source" button at the top-left of the editor, and delete the lines     <colgroup>,  </colgroup> and any lines between them. But I wouldn't worry too much, the table as you've pasted it is still clear to see, and very useful as it is.

Thanks David, I have edited the table and it looks much better

The bad news is that they changed the numbers on Caine Road (and lots of other streets) regularly in the period 1890- WW1. It seems that almost every time a new house was build, all the numbers above the new building changed. The postmans job must have been a nightmare! 

Once I have the full set I will post them here but in the meantime don't rely on the above being complete. 

I have posted all the renumbering I have from 1883 to present for Caine Road. It looks correct to me but please comment if you see any mistakes or know the names of any of the buildings that were at the above numbers/lots

The Rate Book record of the odd-numbered houses 1-47 Caine Road for 1905-1909 gives only two named houses: no. 25 is Elgin Villa, credited to Linstead & Davies; no. 27 is Glenwood, credited to E.R. Belilos.

Jill

Thanks for the information Jill

I have created a place for Elgin Villa here. 

Interestingly the location of Glenwood in 1901 was called Kingsclere. A new Kingsclere was opened between 1901-1905 on Kennedy Road here also owned by E R Belios, so it seems the old family home on Caine Road was renamed Glenwood between 1901 to 1905

Are the historical rate books available anywhere online?

Alas, the Rate Books are not online. They can only be consulted at the PRO. It would take a lot of man hours to scan them.

I see that E.R. Belilios died in London on 11 November 1905. Looking closer, although the Rate Book for 1905-06 records him as the rate payer of no. 27 for that year. The 'R' of his initials is deleted for 1906-07 and then R.E. Belilios (Exec.) is recorded for 1907-09. Raphael Emanuel was the son of Emanuel Raphael. I wonder if the name change of the house had anything to do with Emanuel Raphael's death. I haven't seen the earlier records.

Jill

Herostratus - have I missed your final list of number changes of Caine Road? I can't find no. 52 on your previous list. My grandmother, Mrs. C.E. Warren is listed at no. 33 in 1904 which was her step-mother's and father's address, but at no. 52 in 1908 where her step-mother was also listed. Do you think this might be the same house with a changed number? I must have failed to check the Rate Book for 1908 when I was in Hong Kong and able to do so. Was no. 33 the so-called "Le Caine Mansion" in 1904?

There was an error in the above spreadsheet on 17th February 1903, No 52 had been written as No 53. I have now corrected this. 

In 1904 No 33 was on the corner of Peel and Caine where today the Kwong Fook building is. There is a place for it here

In 1908 No 52 was where Sussex Court is today - between Castle and Caine. This house was buiit on the site of the original Craigengower house

There were definitely different buildings as odd numbers are on the North (downhill) side of Caine Road and even numbers are on the South (uphill) side

Thanks for placing these two houses, Herostratus. I did think it unlikely that an odd numbered house would have turned into an even-numbered one.