Hong Kong Ratcatchers

Greetings!  Here is another wild guess from yours truly.

According to one web site I consulted, the second word "shree" has one syllable, but I cannot think of a Chinese word that would produce such sound.

The accuracy of their pronounciation may have eroded over time, or different dialect, or a made-up spelling by the person who recorded the interview.

One possibility is Low Shi Moon (Cantonese dialect) which corresponds to  老 鼠 們, literally the first two words used together meaning rats, and the third word is plural as in group.  So it translates to Rats Group or Rats Department.

Edit:  In Cantonese dialect, service is translated to 服務 pronounced fok moll, the second word might have been spoken during the interview, so the result would be 老 鼠 務.  I am stretching my imagination may be too far.

Regards,   Peter 

I think the likely chinese name for "lou shree mong" should be 老鼠王 literally " rat king".  the term is commonly used up till perhaps the 60s.

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I think Dr TW Wong is right - the name "老鼠王" makes the most sense and would be pronounced "Lou Suu Wong" in Cantonese as it is spoken today. Here is a reference that says that this term is commonly used for these officers from the HK Sanitary Department operating at the time.

"說到衛生方面，香港於1950年代，仍維持20世紀初起實行（洗太平地）的防疫舉措，即將整座樓宇清洗，由被稱為 "老鼠王" 的市政衛生局人員入屋巡訪檢查和髹灰水，每年一次，市民視為苦事"

This refers to the deep clean of the affected area at the time in the 1950s, when these officers, informally known as "Lou Suu Wong" (Rat King) from the Sanitary Department would clean/disnfect entire buildings, annually. The public viewed this as a painful procedure.

Source - p.158 in this book about HK in the 1950s, titled "默默向上游 - 香港50年代社會形象" by author 鄭寶鴻:

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=2FXeBAAAQBAJ&pg=PA158&lpg=PA158&dq=%...

There is even a picture of the streetcleaner on p.159,  with his cart/trolley and broom dustpan. Not sure if this is the same as a "Lou Suu Wong" officer - will need to ask HK oldtimers who lived at the time to verify.

Page 193 and 198 of this book titled "吞聲忍語─日治時期香港人的集體回憶" by authors 劉智鵬, 周家建 also refers to "老鼠王" (Rat King) during the Japanese occupation period, narrating how some of these Rat King officers stole money from the deceased before turning their bodies in to hospitals and receiving double portions of rice rations, and even colluded with gangs in robbing citizens. In this book, the authors (on p.193) do say that the Rat King officers are the street cleaners (清道夫), so similar to the man pictured on p.159 in the book above.

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=u5iTAgAAQBAJ&pg=PA193&lpg=PA193&dq=%...

Thank you vanessaf and drtwwong for the correction.  I did not think that wong would match because it sounds different.   Regards,  Peter

Is it possible to find out the hometown of the Australian-born Chinese? The place/city where his parents were originally from may not be Guangzhou. By finding out the dialect of that place, the mysterious character "mong" can be more easily identified.

By the way, most of us should be familiar with the district of Mongkok (旺角) in Kowloon peninsular. In standard Cantonese, the character "mong" (旺) should be pronounced "wong" or "woong", but has somehow become "mong". The pronunciation of the character "王" is close to "旺". Only the intonation is different. So "老鼠王" should be the right words.

"worked for the Lou Shree Mong, the Sanitation department rat trappers"

If the term referred to the people doing the work, it would be 老鼠王.

If it referred to the government department doing the work, it would likely be called 老鼠部門 informally & abbreviated to as 老鼠門.

If it was Lou Shree Bong instead of Mong, then it could be 老鼠幫 and referred to the supervisors of the rat catchers, as Sanitation Dept. inspectors were generally known as 衛生幫(辦).

... when my son told me he wanted to learn cantonese (we live in the US), i told him to learn mandarin instead!

sighing and smh