1941 Hong Kong : the Harrison Forman Collection of photos
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I was very excited when I stumbled across the collection of photographer Harrison Forman. There are over 300 photographs taken in Hong Kong in 1941!
It is very diffcult to find photos from this period, as it was just before the Japanese invaded in December 1941. Much of Hong Kong's photographic record was destroyed during the fighting and the years of hardship that followed.
The result is that if you go searching for photos of this time, the same few turn up again and again. But I don't recognise any of these! Although the photos are very well indexed, and the website is easy to use, I think they are hidden from Google, and so have kept a low profile.
The records give the year of the photos as 'circa 1941', but don't give any more exact date. I guess he must have stayed in Hong Kong until fairly late in the year. Some of the photos show buildings with sandbags piled up outside, so they certainly knew that trouble was coming. After a bit more searching, we think they were taken during Sep - Nov 1940, and in Sep 1941.
The photos themselves are good quality, as Forman was a professional photographer. Of immediate interest to me are over 20 photos of Air Raid Tunnels in various stages of construction. So that immediately more than doubles the number of photos of the subject I've been able to find. But the photos cover all topics and areas of Hong Kong, so I think anyone with an interest in 1940s Hong Kong will find them well worth a visit.
Here are the photos Harrison Forman took in Hong Kong in 1941.
The collection is part of the American Geographical Society Library collection, held at the University of Wisconsin. Here is their description of the collection:
The Harrison Forman Photo Collection contains over 3,800 prints and over 300 negatives. This is a fraction of the total Forman collection, sized at 98,000 images, most of which are in 35mm slide format. While the geographical coverage between the slides and photo collections is similar, the photo collection contains Forman’s early work including his Tibet imagery, the Sino-Japanese War, Chinese Civil War, the Henan Famine, and the Blitzkrieg of Poland.
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Hong Kong 1941
Locations of 1941 Photos
Photos 113-115. 117, 159
"Photos 113-115. 117, 159 Looks like corner of Johnston and Hennessy Rds looking east"
Yep, with a great view of Pillbox 57 in the middle of the junction.
Photos 241, 245 and 250
Photo 173 - 174
Photo 259
Photos 95 thru 110
Photos 139, 179-180, 214, 243 and 292 Osaka Syosen Kaisya
Photos 2 & 3
They have helped clear up a little mystery.
Some time ago I received an email suggesting there were Air Raid Shelters dug under Southorn Playground. It seemed a bit unlikely to me, but I'd filed it away at the back of my mind.
Then on Monday I spent some time in the HK Museum Resource center, browsing their old photos. Photo P87.19 is titled: "Air raid shelter at Johnston Road, Wanchai", and someone has added the note "(today's Southorn playground)". The photo shows the mouth of a tunnel under construction, and it is clearly the same tunnel shown in Forman's photos 2 & 3.
So I guess other people have seen photo P87.19 over the years, and the story that there was a shelter at Southorn Playground gradually becomes accepted as a fact. The tunnel in the photo was actually dug into a hillside, and so obviously wasn't at Southorn (which is on reclaimed land). However maybe the description of it being in Wanchai adds to the idea it was one of the tunnels from network 3?
The photo itself looks like it came from a book, magazine, or newspaper. The caption under the photo is in English, together with the name 'Tien Hsia'. Does anyone recognise that as the name of a photographer or publisher?
Tien Hsia
Photo 116 - Shelters at Southorn
Moddsey sent an email while the site was down:
Well spotted! They are definitely pen shelters. If you zoom in to the shelter wall just to the right of thtree in the foreground, you can see the words 'shelter' and 'persons', just the same as the shelter in this photo.
Any guesses which direction we're looking in this photo? I'm guessing it's looking across the playground to the junction of Luard and Hennessy Roads.
And I wonder if it was taken from a tram? The photo is taken looking slightly down onto the shelter roofs, and it could be part of the same tram journey where he took photo 241.
Raymond, thanks for the info on Tien Hsia. If anyone ever spots the original photo, I'd be interested to know in which book / magazine it was published.
The air raid shelter under the Southorn Playground
Southorn Playground
Raymond, thanks a lot for tracking this down. Is it accessible over the web from the HK Public Library search? If yes, please could you let me know the search terms to find it?
Many thanks, MrB
Southorn Playground
re: Southorn Playground
If you could scan and e-mail a copy when it's convenient, that would be great.
Thanks again, MrB
Air raid shelters under Southorn Playground
Well, the mystery is not cleared up after all. Raymond Lo has kindly sent along these two clippings from local Chinese-language newspapers. Both are dated 31 Aug 1940:
MrsB translated them (they are basically the same, so I guess there was a Government statement they are referring to), and I made these notes. Feel free to correct them!
So, did they ever progress beyond these announced plans? Or did the cheaper, easier to build pen shelters in the photo replace them?
I wondered if the English papers would cover the same story. I checked the HK Telegraph for 29-31 Sep, but there is no mention of this.
MrB
Re: Air raid shelters under Southorn Playground
Hi there,
Please take a look at photo 028 in the link below. It showed some trenches, which would become the shelters. The background of the photo clearly showed the children playground.
Best Regards,
T
http://www.hytd.com/dispbbs.asp?boardid=28&replyid=3084&id=341&page=1&skin=0&Star=3
Re-Air raid shelters under Southorn Playground
re: Air raid shelters under Southorn Playground
T & Raymond, thanks for the extra info. There's a piece on page 12 of the 8-Sep-1940 HK Sunday Herald that talks about the plans for air raid shelters on HK Island:
So I wonder if these underground shelters at Southorn are an example of the 'trench shelters'?
MrB
A bit more information about Air Raid Shelters on Kowloon side
Hi there,
I found a map showing a draft of location for sand bags, Air Raid Shelters/Trench Shelters here:
http://www.hytd.com/dispbbs.asp?boardid=28&replyid=3084&id=341&page=1&skin=0&Star=3
Please take a look at photo 031. The map was drawn entirely in Chinese, but you could still have an idea. I'll if I could get you an English overlay later.
Best Regards,
T
Mike Chappell & 高添強
Hi T,
I'm afraid that most of the pictures, if not all, in the link that you mentioned, are copied from the book by 高添強, "香港 日佔時期", 1995, ISBN 962 04 1254 0.
What makes it worse is, the illustration of the soldier on the right, is from the book by Mike Chappell, "The Canadian Army at War", 1985, ISBN 0 85045 600 2. It also appears in "香港 日佔時期".
Regards,
isdl
hmm..... copied?
Hi there,
I have not read the two books you mentioned so it would be difficult for me to identify them when I first bumped onto the link. Just checked the www.hytd.com domain and the whois record is a bit murky.......... Traceroute at DNSStuff.com showed the site is very likely to be behind firewalls, sort of unable to trace.
Thanks for pointing it out, however.
Best Regards,
T
Mike Chappell
Hi T,
I would be surprised if those people could have access to HM government's archives. Indeed, some of the pictures are very obvious, post #199 "return of the governor Sir Mark Young", tables in post #62 & #73... all are scanned from the book.
Sometimes, I would get excited when unearthing a new site, espcially if the information is original. But, it does not go perfect everytime.
"香港 日佔時期" is still available from good book stores, "The Canadian Army at war" is currently out of print.
高添強, needs no further introduction.
Mike Chappell is a renowned author & illustrator on military subjects. He has his own publishing house: Wessex Military Publishing.
Regards,
isdl
re: Air raid shelters under Southorn Playground
Thanks to Moddsey for sending in this newspaper clipping, which gives a good view of the trench shelter at Southorn Playgorund under construction:
#118: Statue Square in
#118: Statue Square in Central facing south. The building was the old HSBC HQ Building in No.1 Queen's Rd Central. The Queen Mary statue was relocated to Victoria Park.
#117: Central Market
#117: Central Market (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Market)
Harrison Forman
Harrison Forman was my gramma Ida's brother, and my great uncle. They had another brother Ben, who died in the great influenza epidemic, and a sister, Rose and another brother Joe. I vividly recall meeting "Uncle Harry" as a young child, and he had a presence that was larger than life. My mother said that even as young man he was restless to see the world, and was always more comfortable traveling than at home in Milwaukee, Wi. I became close with his wife Sandra Carlyle in her later years, and at that time she was seeking a permanent home for his photo collection. It was very important to her that it be spiritually correct as well as historically correct. I met his daughter, Brenda, my mother's first cousin, and she was very strong and brilliant like her Dad. Although he left humanity the legacy of his photos, there was also a price to pay for his wife and daughter, who had a world wandering husband/father. I still have a lovely silk skirt from China that had belonged to my mother from her uncle Harrison.
re: Harrison Forman
Sharon, Thanks very much for writing in. We've found his photos to be very interesting, so it's good to hear a bit more about the man behind them.
Regards, David
More Harrison Forman photos
IDJ has noticed the collection of photos has had several hundred more photos added to it since we first looked. The new photos can be seen from here on...
Added photos of Harrison Forman
Just been through the lot. Absolutely amazing photos.
The extra photos do give better dates as to when HF was in Hong Kong as seen from movie posters and headline news. Nice pictures of the Bowrington Canal air raid sheters, the hollow (Mimi Lau) blocks, more street scenes and the downed Mitusbishi MC 21 that crashed on the Kwanti Racecourse on 5 September 1940.
David - it would be wonderful if the new photos could be added to Gwulo.
Could we contact them and
Could we contact them and offer to use Gwulo identify the "unidentifed" photos.
Added photos of Harrison Foreman
The aircraft that crashed at Kwangti racecourse was actually a German built Junkers Ju86 of Manchukuo Airlines (MKKK) ie Manchurian, operating for the Japanese army. Three of these aircraft had set out from Taiwan for Canton but this one crashed in Hong Kong. Two of the crew were hospitalised for 3 and 4 weeks. The wreck was taken by rail to Kowloon and shipped on the 'Heiyo Maru' back to Dairen. MKKK had several JU86s that had been acquired in a barter arrangement with Germany for soya beans. The picture caption for this aircraft wreck in the book Wings over Hong Kong that identifies it as a Mitsibishi MC21 is incorrect. Something that was known shortly after the book went to print but impossible to correct unless it is republished.
In one of the related pictures of the crash can be seen the young Hei Kei Watt who in 1935 was the first Chinese aircraft ground engineer graduating in Hong Kong. He later rose to become the Principal of the Far East Flying & Technical Training School at Kai Tak until his retirement in the 1980s.
Thanks IDJ
Thanks IDJ for the correction. I note the registration is visible from the HF photos.
re: Could we contact them
Hi, yes I contacted them when we uploaded the earlier batch, and we have the ok to show them here. (They're shown here, but the images are displayed from the University's servers, ie we don't copy any of their files.)
If you'd like to add the newly added photos here so we can identify them, these instructions should still work.
Regards, David
Problem
Tried to add the first photo of the expanded HF Collection. Pasted the URL but the photo did not appear.
re: Problem
You need to use the 'reference url' for it to work. Please see step 9 on this page.
Regards, David
Problem Resolved
With the expanded photo collection, the probable reference locations on page one are no longer correct. I suggest to delete them. Updates to the photos are currently being made.
re: Problem Resolved
Thanks Moddsey, you're doing a great job adding in these photos.
I've hidden that earlier 'probable reference locations' comment as you suggested.
I've got an idea why these photos are all square shaped instead of the proper rectangle, and will take a look at fixing that over the next week or so.
Regards, David
HF Photos
David -Looks like the HF Photo Archive has gone through a revamp. The photos that were added previously and cross-referenced do not appear anymore on gwulo. Plus the reference URL that was near the title of each photo is no longer there.
re: HF Photos
Ouch. The connection to the original copy is still there, but there's no obvious way to show the photo. I'm not sure what's the best workaround - any suggestions?
Regards, David
Yes the photos are embedded.
Accessing the photos
I went to the AGSL website and tried to access the photos, but what I can find is only the inventory list of them, and not the images themselves. Can someone tell me how to get to the images instead?
breskvar
Re: accessing the photos
Try from here on...
re: HF Photos
I've just written to the UWM to ask if there's any way to show the photos again.
Regards, David
HF Photos
David - I note reference URLs are available for each photo. Any chance of showing the photos again?
re: HF Photos
Unfortunately, no. At least, I haven't heard back from UWM, and I can't see any easy way to display an image from its reference URL.
I have been thinking about how to handle these. My current plan is to convert them to ordinary 'Image' pages, but move the reference url into the text. That still won't show the photo, but at least it will keep all the notes and make it more obvious how to click through to the UWM site.
For the best photos it will be possible to download a copy from the UWM site and upload it to the Gwulo page so it displays again.
Not the best solution, but that's the best I've been able to think of. It's on the to-do list, but still 2 - 3 months away.
Regards, David
Re: HF Photos
New photos have been added to the collection with some 1950s shots thrown in for confusion from here on...